The Cabrera Lab Podcast

Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera

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Find the pattern beneath the problem.

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The Cabrera Lab Podcast treats messy work and life problems as systems with visible patterns. Its conversations move from casual banter into DSRP, mental models, team dynamics, feedback, and the difference between busyness and effectiveness.

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About The Cabrera Lab Podcast

The Cabrera Lab Podcast is a conversational guide to systems thinking for people who keep running into the same problems under new labels. Its episodes often start in a loose, lightly comic rhythm, then settle into structured analysis of work, relationships, feedback, and organizational life. The central move is pattern recognition. A team with talented individuals may still fail to team because its members do not share mental models, priorities, or perspectives. A person receiving feedback may believe they are listening while actually tracking an internal voice of defense, judgment, or self-protection. A busy organization may feel heroic while staying trapped in the same fires. The show keeps returning to the gap between busyness and effectiveness. It also returns to DSRP as a practical language for seeing distinctions, systems, relationships, and perspectives in action. The speakers use sketches, everyday examples, and repeated reframing to make abstract concepts usable. One episode turns team misalignment into a question of part-whole thinking and perspective-taking. Another treats defensiveness as a listening problem before it is a personality problem. Another challenges frameworks that have not been tested by separating claims about existence from claims about effect. The tone is candid and restless. It can be funny, but the humor usually works as a release valve before the thinking gets more precise. The show is not polished academic distance. It is closer to a live lab bench for mental models, with ideas being tested against meetings, relationships, organizational problems, and recurring personal patterns. Its strongest moments come when it refuses to accept surface explanations. Names change, situations change, but the structure may be the same. That insistence gives the show its practical force.

Made for: For listeners interested in systems thinking, team dynamics, feedback, and clearer thinking. It best suits people who like ideas tested against real work and life examples rather than kept in theory.

What sets it apart: The show pairs casual conversational energy with a specific systems-thinking vocabulary, especially DSRP. It stands out by treating everyday frustration as evidence of deeper structure, not just behavior to manage.

In their own words

Join Drs. Derek and Laura Cabrera from Cornell University as they inspire you to approach life's challenges with a fresh perspective. Witness their use of GOAT-level thinking to enhance your problem-solving skills. Discover new possibilities, approaches, and solutions you never knew existed. Elevate your thinking and get better every day with their entertaining guidance.

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Mental models meet marital friction, so your next disagreement has somewhere smarter to go.

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  • to trace a heated reaction back to the mental model quietly pulling its strings
  • to replace fire-fighting busyness with a search for the structural pattern underneath
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  1. 1

    #139: What Does It Mean To Be "Smart"?

    Sep 30, 2026·36m
  2. 2

    #138: How to Think Better Without Thinking Harder

    Sep 23, 2026·31m
  3. 3

    #137: Are You Burnt Out? Or Just Stressed?

    Sep 16, 2026·33m
  4. 4

    #136: The Four Thinking Tools That Replace Thousands

    Sep 9, 2026·29m
  5. 5

    #135: How to Raise Kids Who Can Solve Their Own Problems

    Sep 2, 2026·39m
  6. 6

    #134: How Do You Know If You’re a Good Person?

    Aug 26, 2026·40m
  7. 7

    Episode #133: The Real Reason People Get So Triggered

    Aug 19, 2026·30m
  8. 8

    #132: Goop Is Everywhere—And It’s Making Us Worse

    Aug 12, 2026·28m
  9. 9

    Episode #128: What I Wish I Knew as a Neurodivergent Kid

    Jul 15, 2026·32m
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    #127: How to Make Invisible Thinking Visible

    Jul 8, 2026·28m
  11. 11

    #126: How to Stop Misalignment Before It Starts

    Jul 1, 2026·20m
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    #125: Stop Holding Everything in Your Head

    Jun 24, 2026·20m
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    #122: What Great Leaders Understand About Culture

    Jun 3, 2026·28m
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    #121: Why “I’m Trying” Is Often a Cop-Out

    May 27, 2026·24m
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    #120: You’re Already Thinking — Just Badly

    May 20, 2026·41m
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    #119: You’re Not Responsible for Everyone’s Feelings

    May 13, 2026·32m
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    #118: How to Think Clearly in a Crisis

    May 6, 2026·21m
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    #117: The Psychology of Motivation, Emotion, and Thought

    Apr 29, 2026·31m
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    #116: Why Better Thinking Makes You a Better Person

    Apr 22, 2026·30m
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    #115: How to Learn When Words Don’t Work for You

    Apr 15, 2026·34m
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    Episode #114: How to Raise Better Thinkers

    Apr 8, 2026·38m
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    #113: Why Nothing in Your Life Is Changing

    Apr 1, 2026·26m
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    #112: Think It Through: How to Break Big Changes Into Manageable Parts

    Mar 25, 2026·29m
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    #111: Stress Is a Systems Problem (Not Just an Emotional One)

    Mar 18, 2026·31m
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    #110: How to Train Your Brain to Think Systemically

    Mar 11, 2026·25m
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    #109: Think It Through: When Reality Isn’t What You Want It to Be

    Mar 4, 2026·35m
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    #108: Stop Believing Frameworks That Haven’t Been Tested

    This episode explores the distinction between studies of existence and studies of effect in systems thinking research, explaining why this conceptual framework matters for testing claims and arguments.

    Feb 25, 2026·34m
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    #107: Love Is a Behavior, Not a Feeling

    Feb 18, 2026·28m
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    #106: Passive-Aggression Isn’t Passive—It’s Just Dishonest

    Feb 11, 2026·20m
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    #105: Think It Through: Helping Others See What They’re Missing

    Feb 4, 2026·26m
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    #104: It’s Not Too Much Information—It’s Too Little Organization

    Jan 28, 2026·28m
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    #103: Think It Through: When You Know What to Do—but Don’t Do It

    Jan 21, 2026·25m
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    #102: Mental Fitness Explained: Why Intelligence Is More Than IQ

    Jan 14, 2026·37m
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    #101: Think It Through: The Negative Inner Voice That’s Holding You Back

    Jan 7, 2026·29m
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    #100: The Top 10 Systems Thinking Lessons from 100 Episodes

    Dec 31, 2025·46m
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    Episode #99: How to Reflect the Right Way Using Systems Thinking

    Dec 24, 2025·24m
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    #98: Think It Through: Why Having the “Perfect Holiday” Is the Fastest Way to Ruin It

    Dec 17, 2025·31m
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    #97: What Can Systems Thinkers Do That Others Can’t?

    Dec 10, 2025·41m
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    #96: Think It Through: The Hidden Cost of Always Doing What You’re Told

    Dec 3, 2025·30m
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    #95: Think It Through: Teaching Your Kids to Love Reality

    Nov 26, 2025·37m
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    #94: Fast. Right. Adaptive. The Power of Practicing Is/Is Not List

    Nov 19, 2025·34m
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    #93: O-Based Education: How to Build Smarter, Freer, More Adaptive Humans

    Nov 12, 2025·33m
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    #92: Think It Through: The Feedback You Don’t Want Is the Feedback You Need

    Nov 5, 2025·39m
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    #91: From Deming to Donella: Rating the Top Systems Thinking Quotes

    Oct 29, 2025·30m
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    #90: Think it Through: Stop Arguing Perspectives, Start Solving Systems

    Oct 22, 2025·34m
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    #89: Think It Through: Boundaries, Guilt, and Getting Your Time Back

    Oct 15, 2025·26m
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    #88: Think It Through: Parenting, Culture, and Mental Models

    Oct 8, 2025·38m
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    #87: Snake Oil, Swamps, and Systems Thinking

    Oct 1, 2025·47m
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    #86: Teach Your Kids to Think: The Most Important Parenting Skill

    Sep 24, 2025·35m
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    #85: Love, Marriage, and Mental Models: Systems Thinking in Relationships

    Sep 17, 2025·39m
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    #84: Why Our Schools are Failing (And How to Fix Them with Systems Thinking)

    Sep 10, 2025·42m
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    #83: The Science of Thinking Fast, Right, and On Purpose

    Sep 3, 2025·39m
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    #82: Discipline, Ownership, and Doing It Right (Even When No One’s Watching)

    Aug 27, 2025·42m
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    #81: Systems Thinking for Character, Capacity, and Culture

    Aug 20, 2025·35m
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    #80: The Culture Code Continued—Hard Truths That Build Strong People

    Aug 13, 2025·26m
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    #79: The Culture Code: What We Practice, Why It Works

    Aug 6, 2025·45m
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    Episode #78: Systems Thinking IRL - Parenting in a Processed World

    Jul 30, 2025·41m
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    #77: Why the World Needs 8 Billion Systems Thinkers (Above the Standard)

    Jul 23, 2025·36m
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    #76: Why You Keep Attracting the Same People, Jobs, and Problems

    Jul 16, 2025·23m
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    #74: The 12 Gets: Simple, Scientific Rules for a Life That Works

    Jul 9, 2025·41m
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    #73: Earn Your Own Trust—The Real Power of Integrity

    Jul 2, 2025·28m
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    #72: How High Performers Really Manage Their Time, Energy & Minds

    Jun 25, 2025·45m
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    #71: Think Better, Live Better—Why Systems Thinking Isn’t Just for Work

    Jun 18, 2025·33m
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    #69: Overthinking, Adaptability, and the Fast-and-Right Mindset

    Jun 11, 2025·33m
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    #68: The Grammar of Reality

    Jun 4, 2025·44m
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    #67: The Beginner’s Guide to Systems Thinking (In Under 20 Minutes)

    May 28, 2025·20m
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    #66: There's Nothing More Practical Than a Good Theory

    May 21, 2025·38m
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    #64: Stop Taking It Personally—Why Meaning Gets Lost in Translation

    May 14, 2025·37m
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    #63: The Simple Formula Behind Every Thought

    May 7, 2025·27m
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    #62: Echo Chambers, Fake News, and the Collapse of Credibility

    Apr 30, 2025·40m
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    #61: From Outward Bound to AI—Lessons in Raising Thinkers, Not Robots

    Apr 23, 2025·44m
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    #60: Beyond the Couch: DSRP Therapy for a New Mental Model

    Apr 16, 2025·40m
  73. 73

    #58: Stop Solving Problems—Start Understanding Systems

    Apr 9, 2025·24m
  74. 74

    #57: Connect the Dots—Why Root Cause Thinking Isn’t Enough

    Apr 2, 2025·30m
  75. 75

    #56: The Whole Is NOT Greater Than Its Parts (Here’s Why)

    Mar 26, 2025·29m
  76. 76

    #55: Don’t Trust, Verify—How to Separate Your Thoughts from Your Feelings

    Mar 19, 2025·45m
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    #53: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Exposing the Truth About Systems Thinking

    Mar 12, 2025·48m
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    #52: Critical Thinking is Biased Thinking

    Mar 5, 2025·54m
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    #51: The #1 Indicator of Real Intelligence (It’s Not What You Expect)

    Feb 26, 2025·31m
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    #50: Slapping “Systems” on It Doesn’t work—How to Think Systemically for Real

    Feb 19, 2025·33m
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    #48: The Ultimate Playbook for Building a Winning Culture

    Feb 12, 2025·43m
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    #47: How to Build an Adaptive Learning Organization That Thinks and Grows

    Feb 5, 2025·37m
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    Episode #46: Capacity is King: Build Systems That Actually Work

    Jan 29, 2025·39m
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    #45: Why Most Mission Statements Fail (And How to Do Yours Right)

    Jan 22, 2025·41m
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    #43: Why Your Organization’s Vision Sucks (and How to Fix It)

    Jan 15, 2025·45m
  86. 86

    #42: Systems Leadership: The Secret to Thriving Organizations

    Jan 8, 2025·41m
  87. 87

    #41: Start the New Year Like a Systems Thinker

    Jan 1, 2025·44m
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    Episode #40: A Systems Thinker's Guide to a 'Perfect' Holiday

    Dec 25, 2024·32m
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    #39: Stop Guessing: The Secret to Measuring and Improving Your Thinking

    Dec 18, 2024·46m
  90. 90

    #38: The 8 Biggest Mistakes In Systems Thinking

    Dec 11, 2024·50m
  91. 91

    #37: Rethinking Network Theory with DSRP

    Dec 4, 2024·48m
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    Episode #36: Getting Started in Systems Thinking: Become A Better Thinker in Less Than 1 Minute

    Nov 27, 2024·57m
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    #35: Reclaiming Learning: Breaking Free from the Education System

    Nov 20, 2024·1h 4m
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    #34: Hearing Beyond Words: Uncovering the Hidden Structure in Everyday Conversations

    Nov 13, 2024·43m
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    #33: Unlock Peak Performance: 5 Daily Moves to Become More Adaptive

    Nov 6, 2024·54m
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    #32: Kick the Bucket

    Oct 30, 2024·46m
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    #31: Context is Lazy

    Oct 23, 2024·38m
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    #31: Context is Lazy

    Oct 23, 2024·38m
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    #30: All About View-Point Perspectives

    Oct 16, 2024·1h 15m
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    #29: All About Action-Reaction Relationships

    Oct 9, 2024·1h 11m
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    #28: All About Part-Whole Systems

    Oct 2, 2024·1h 7m
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    #27: All About Identity-Other Distinctions

    Sep 25, 2024·1h 2m
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    #26: Lessons from the Mountains

    Sep 18, 2024·1h 2m
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    #25: The Path to Bueno

    Sep 11, 2024·34m
  105. 105

    #24: Avoid the Norm

    Sep 4, 2024·37m
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    #23: Do You Know What It Feels Like To Be Wrong?

    Aug 28, 2024·34m
  107. 107

    #22: The Inner Battle of Masking

    Aug 21, 2024·47m
  108. 108

    #21: Navigating the Paradox of Life

    Aug 14, 2024·36m
  109. 109

    #20: Break Your Habits and Dig Deeper

    Aug 7, 2024·47m
  110. 110

    #19: Coke vs Pepsi, the Two Party System, and Forced Choices

    Jul 31, 2024·36m
  111. 111

    #18: Relationships Sponsored By The Number 3

    Jul 24, 2024·42m
  112. 112

    #17: Are You In Charge Of Your Feelings?

    Jul 17, 2024·52m
  113. 113

    #16: Your Phone Is Using You

    Jul 10, 2024·28m
  114. 114

    #15: July 4th Special: A More Perfect Union

    Jul 3, 2024·50m
  115. 115

    #14: Neurodiversity: Disorder or Difference?

    Jun 26, 2024·1h
  116. 116

    #13: How Do We Know What Is Real?

    Jun 19, 2024·37m
  117. 117

    #12: The Myth(?) of Work/Life Balance

    Jun 12, 2024·33m
  118. 118

    #11: Grit, Resilience, and Antifragility

    Jun 5, 2024·41m
  119. 119

    #10: Mindsets, Ethics, and Lichens, Oh My!

    May 29, 2024·58m
  120. 120

    #9: Thinking Critically About Critical Thinking

    May 22, 2024·42m
  121. 121

    #8: The War on Goop

    May 15, 2024·31m
  122. 122

    #7: Overthinking: It's NOT a Thing

    May 8, 2024·32m
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    #6: Heal Your Self: How to get over something you can’t get over

    May 1, 2024·38m
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    #5: Rethinking Education

    Apr 24, 2024·50m
  125. 125

    #4: Practice Makes Progress

    Apr 17, 2024·48m
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    #3: Is TQ The New IQ?

    Apr 10, 2024·34m
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    #2: Love Reality

    Apr 3, 2024·38m
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    #1: You Don't Have Time Not To Think!

    Mar 27, 2024·47m