Talking Machines

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Talking Machines is your window into the world of machine learning. Your hosts, Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence, bring you clear conversations with experts in the field, insightful discussions of industry news, and useful answers to your questions. Machine learning is changing the questions we can ask of the world around us, here we explore how to ask the best questions and what to do with the answers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Talking Machines connects machine learning's technical debates to their consequences for research, work, institutions, and public decision-making.

Talking Machines treats machine learning as both a technical discipline and a force acting on institutions, work, and public life. Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence typically begin by testing an idea together, then widen the conversation through an interview.

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AI meets labor economics; your future-of-work hot take could use a boulder of salt.

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  • Katherine Gorman to press Neil Lawrence on how human and machine intelligence differ
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Statements on StatementsMay 31, 2018

A grounded debate on open access, journal costs, and the medical image data behind machine learning.

Talking Machines places a debate over machine-learning publishing next to a quieter but equally practical question: what medical image data allows researchers to see.

The Futility of Artificial Carpenters and Further ReadingMay 17, 2018

A thoughtful episode on AI language, research culture, and the systems around the field.

Talking Machines looks at the language people use around AI, with Michael Jordan's distinction between artificial intelligence and intelligence infrastructure giving the episode its center.

Economies, Work and AIMay 3, 2018

A clear bridge from European machine learning policy to who gets heard as work changes.

Economies, Work and AI links machine learning policy to the larger question of how technology reshapes work and who gets a voice in that process.

Explainability and the InexplicableApr 19, 2018

Explainability becomes a matter of method, judgment, and who gets heard.

Talking Machines turns a technical question about making machine-learning systems intelligible into a careful discussion of method, judgment, and trust.

Good Data Practice RulesApr 5, 2018

A GDPR setup gives way to Andrew's warm account of lasers, MIT, and an unexpected path toward AI.

Talking Machines begins with Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence framing GDPR around the movement of personal data outside the EU and the protections being built around it.

Natural vs Artificial Intelligence and Doing Unexpected WorkMar 8, 2018

A grounded AI conversation that expands into work, inequality, and prediction.

Talking Machines finds Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence working through the distance between natural and artificial intelligence, starting with Gorman's memory of a TEDxExeter talk as Mind and Machine.

Explanations and Reviews

A clear, cross-disciplinary look at explainability, law, and black box decisions.

Talking Machines spends this episode in the awkward space between machine learning and legal accountability. Neil Lawrence and Katherine Gorman discuss counterfactual explanations under the GDPR, and the useful tension is that the model can stay opaque while still having to…

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  1. 1

    Reproducibly and Revisiting History

    The hosts discuss the importance of reproducibility in machine learning, focusing on recent initiatives at conferences like NRIPS to incorporate code submission and other measures to enhance research transparency.

    ·46m
  2. 2

    News from Neil and Updates from DALI

    ·1h 9m
  3. 3

    Responsibility, Risk, and Publishing

    This episode features an interview with Madhulika Shrikumar from the Partnership on AI, discussing her background in law and technology regulation, focusing on challenges like cross-border data access in criminal cases and responsible AI publication.

    ·26m
  4. 4

    ICLR: accessible, inclusive, virtual

    This episode discusses the International Conference on Learning Representations (ICLR), its growth from a workshop to a major virtual conference, and its significance in the machine learning ecosystem.

    ·39m
  5. 5

    ICML 2021: Test of Time(ly) Award

    The hosts discuss technical challenges in managing the large-scale ICML conference proceedings for PMLR, including GitHub timeouts and surname disambiguation issues.

    ·19m
  6. 6

    Learning with Less, Invisible Labor and Combating Anti-Blackness

    This episode features PhD student Devin Guillory discussing his journey into robotics and computer vision research, his industry experience, and his current work on learning with less labels at UC Berkeley.

    ·37m
  7. 7

    Humans in the Loop and Outside of the Classroom

    This episode of Talking Machines features Michael Lippman discussing his work with the Humanity-Centered Robotics Initiative at Brown University and his experiences as a communications chair for NeurIPS.

    ·38m
  8. 8

    Prioritizing Problems and 100 episodes

    The hosts celebrate their 100th episode while discussing the COVID-19 pandemic's impact in the UK and Italy, noting varying levels of public concern and social distancing behaviors.

    ·31m
  9. 9

    The Evolution of ML and Furry Little Animals

    This episode features an interview with Dr.

    ·48m
  10. 10

    Gods and Robots

    This episode of Talking Machines features hosts Katherine Gorman and Michael Littman interviewing Neil and Rabbi Laura Jenner-Klausner about their backgrounds in machine learning and interfaith dialogue.

    ·40m
  11. 11

    If a Machine Could Predict Your Death, Should it?

    A physician shares a personal story from the emergency room about a dying patient to introduce the ethical implications of using machine learning to predict mortality in healthcare.

    ·18m
  12. 12

    Talking Machines Live and Understanding Modeling Viruses

    The hosts discuss their first live broadcast episode featuring an interview with Elaine Nsoisi from Boston University about modeling viruses and public health during social distancing.

    ·40m
  13. 13

    Gaussian Processes, Grad School, and Richard Zemel

    This episode of Talking Machines explores Gaussian processes as a Bayesian framework for modeling distributions over random functions in machine learning.

    ·44m
  14. 14

    Long Term Fairness

    This episode discusses a best paper award-winning study at ICML that examines the delayed impact of fair machine learning, emphasizing the need for longitudinal analysis to truly assess fairness in algorithms like loan awarding systems.

    ·29m
  15. 15

    The Deep End of Deep Learning

    This segment introduces a TEDx Boston talk by Hugo La Rochelle on foundational deep learning concepts, shared in preparation for the ICLR conference.

    ·19m
  16. 16

    Data Trusts and Citation Trends

    This segment introduces the concept of data trusts, tracing its origins to Lillian Edwards' 2004 paper and discussing how it aims to realign incentives between data holders and subjects through a feudal ecosystem analogy.

    ·54m
  17. 17

    Aspirational Asimov and How to Survive a Conference

    Hosts Catherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence discuss the potential name change of the NIPS conference, addressing concerns over racial slurs and anatomical references that affect diversity.

    ·45m·4 clips
  18. 18

    Insights from AISTATS

    The hosts discuss the AISTATS conference in Japan, highlighting a paper on Fisher Information and Natural Gradient Learning in Random Deep Networks by Amari and colleagues.

    ·52m
  19. 19

    DSA Addis Ababa and ICML Los Angeles

    Neil Lawrence discusses his experience at Data Science Africa in Addis Ababa, the expansion to two annual meetings including events in West Africa, and challenges in scaling such conferences while considering local economic impacts.

    ·56m
  20. 20

    The View from Addis Ababa

    This segment discusses the upcoming ICLR conference in Addis Ababa in 2020, focusing on its significance for Africa and what international attendees might learn from the experience.

    ·23m
  21. 21

    PosterSession.ai and Deep Quaggles

    Neil Lawrence discusses a recent paper by Edwin Fong and Chris Holmes on marginal likelihood and cross-validation within the MOPEN framework for Bayesian modeling, highlighting the challenges of probabilistic models in capturing real-world complexity.

    ·45m
  22. 22

    Idea Pandemics and Workshop Walkthrough

    The hosts discuss the announcement of NeurIPS 2019 workshops, highlighting key insights from Jen Wartman-Vaughn's blog post on diversity, innovation, and application trends.

    ·59m
  23. 23

    Children are the Future and Ada Lovelace Day

    ·55m
  24. 24

    Not What But Why

    Professor Barbara Englehart discusses using machine learning as a detective-like tool to solve mysteries in genomics, biology, and medicine, introducing Leo Breiman's concept of the two cultures in statistical modeling.

    ·20m
  25. 25

    What Does Red Sound Like

    ·50m
  26. 26

    How to Ask an Actionable Question

    ·39m
  27. 27

    The Great AI Fallacy

    Neil Lawrence discusses the 'great AI fallacy'—the misconception that AI will be the first wave of automation to adapt to humans rather than requiring humans to adapt to it, contrasting it with past automation like factories and computers.

    ·48m
  28. 28

    Exploring MARS and Getting back to Bayesics

    Neil Lawrence discusses his experience at the Mars conference, highlighting Vivian Say's talk on energy-efficient hardware implementations for machine learning that optimize processor layouts based on algorithm data access patterns.

    ·1h 9m
  29. 29

    Slowed Down Conferences and Even More Summer Schools

    Neil Lawrence discusses his experience at the Stu Hunter Conference, highlighting its unique format focused on industrial statistics and debates around statistics versus analytics and machine learning.

    ·43m
  30. 30

    Jupyter Notebooks and Modern Model Distribution

    This episode discusses the origins and uses of Jupyter Notebooks, tracing their development from the IPython project and comparing them to tools like Mathematica for data analysis and machine learning.

    ·37m
  31. 31

    AI for Good and The Real World

    This episode explores the intersection of machine learning with real-world causality, discussing challenges like counterfactual reasoning and the limitations of randomized studies in fields like personalized medicine.

    ·33m
  32. 32

    Systems Design and Tools for Transparency

    This episode discusses the 3D process for machine learning systems design, emphasizing how algorithms are composed into useful systems and the importance of software engineering and transparency.

    ·40m
  33. 33

    How to Research in Hype and CIFAR's Strategy

    The hosts discuss Tom Griffiths' question about conducting research in an era of hype and reflect on changes in the academic community.

    ·37m
  34. 34

    Troubling Trends and Climbing Mountains

    This episode discusses a critical paper titled 'Troubling Trends in Machine Learning Scholarship' that analyzes problematic patterns in how machine learning research is conducted and presented.

    ·40m
  35. 35

    The Sweetness of a Bitter Lesson and Bringing ML and Healthcare Closer

    The hosts discuss Rich Sutton's blog post 'The Bitter Lesson', exploring how general-purpose methods like search and learning scale with computation and data in machine learning.

    ·51m
  36. 36

    Simulated Learning and Real World Ethics

    This episode explores the use of simulation in machine learning, particularly reinforcement learning, and discusses its potential limitations and ethical implications in real-world applications.

    ·58m
  37. 37

    Real World Real Time and Five Papers for Mike Tipping

    The hosts discuss Mike Tipping's request for five key machine learning papers from recent years, reflecting on his career and the challenge of selecting papers in today's rapidly evolving field.

    ·1h 2m
  38. 38

    Predicting Floods and Really Doing Good

    Sela Novo discusses her journey from early volunteering experiences to realizing she could use her mathematical and computer science skills to create positive impact at scale in her career at Google Research.

    ·39m
  39. 39

    The Bezos Paradox and Machine Learning Languages

    Neil Lawrence recounts his experience speaking at an Amazon Machine Learning Conference in 2016, where Jeff Bezos was unexpectedly in the audience, leading to an amusing anecdote about the paradox of Bezos's unassuming presence.

    ·41m
  40. 40

    Being Global Bit by Bit

    This episode of Talking Machines discusses the book 'Bit by Bit' by Matthew Selgenick, exploring how it bridges machine learning and social science for research and ethical applications.

    ·49m
  41. 41

    The Possibility Of Explanation and The End of Season Four

    This episode features a TEDx talk by Harvard Professor Finale Doshi-Velez exploring the possibility of explanation in artificial intelligence, particularly in healthcare applications.

    ·18m
  42. 42

    Neural Information Processing Systems and Distributed Internal Intelligence Systems

    This episode explores the concept of distributed versus centralized intelligence through examples like swarm robots and the human immune system, drawing from a Royal Society panel discussion on AI.

    ·37m
  43. 43

    Data Driven Ideas and Actionable Privacy

    This episode discusses the importance of moving beyond mere publication in machine learning research to focus on actionable insights, data curation, and answering the 'so what' factor for real-world impact.

    ·45m
  44. 44

    Predicting the Decade and Distributing Conferences

    The hosts discuss reflecting on the past decade's machine learning advancements and predicting how work methodologies will evolve in the coming decade.

    ·1h 7m
  45. 45

    Debating Project Debater and Hello NeurIPS

    Neil Lawrence discusses his upcoming debate with IBM's Project Debater at the Cambridge Union, exploring how the AI debating system works and the context of parliamentary-style debates.

    ·42m
  46. 46

    De-Enchanting AI with the Law

    This episode features a TEDxBoston talk by law professor Kenneth Anderson discussing the need for legal frameworks to regulate AI and robotics, challenging simplistic solutions like Asimov's Three Laws.

    ·20m
  47. 47

    A Cooperative Path to Artificial Intelligence

    Michael Littman uses anecdotes about his children's different learning styles to illustrate contrasting approaches to developing intelligent systems in artificial intelligence.

    ·18m
  48. 48

    ICML 2018 with Jennifer Dy

    This episode features an interview with Jennifer Dy, a professor at Northeastern and program chair of ICML 2018, discussing her career path from the Philippines to machine learning research.

    ·20m·1 clip
  49. 49

    Explanations and Reviews

    This episode of Talking Machines explores AI ethics with a paper on counterfactual explanations under GDPR, discusses the stochastic nature of the NIPS reviewing process, and features an interview with Sven Strohband on practical AI startup strategies in robotics and agriculture.

    ·24m·2 clips
  50. 50

    Let's Reflect

    Jun 13, 2020·0m
  51. 51

    Statements on Statements

    Hidden gem

    Talking Machines examines the announced Nature Machine Intelligence journal through Neil Lawrence's criticism of subscription publishing and Maithra Phagu's explanation of neural-network interpretability.

    May 31, 2018·27m·1 clip
  52. 52

    The Futility of Artificial Carpenters and Further Reading

    Hidden gem

    Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence open with Michael Jordan’s Medium post "artificial intelligence, the revolution hasn’t happened yet" and Rodney Brooks’s essay, using an ultrasound false-positive story and the UK Q risk score to argue that AI needs intelligence infrastructure.

    May 17, 2018·37m·2 clips
  53. 53

    Economies, Work and AI

    Hidden gem

    Talking Machines hosts Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence examine ELIS, the European Lab for Learning and Intelligent Systems, and the UK artificial intelligence sector deal as competing approaches to machine-learning investment.

    May 3, 2018·43m·3 clips
  54. 54

    Explainability and the Inexplicable

    Hidden gem

    Neil Lawrence connects AI debates about singularity, immortality, and omnipotence with religious imagery, then shifts attention toward privacy, freedom, and human responsibility.

    Apr 19, 2018·44m·3 clips
  55. 55

    Good Data Practice Rules

    Hidden gem

    Talking Machines examines GDPR as a formal attempt to regulate personal-data use, including its 1995 directive predecessor, 1998 drafting history, worldwide-revenue fines, and unresolved meaning of algorithmic explanations.

    Apr 5, 2018·52m·3 clips
  56. 56

    Can an AI Practitioner Fix a Radio?

    Hidden gem

    Peter Donnelly says AI is more likely to enable jobs than replace them, but the job mix may still change.

    Mar 22, 2018·44m·2 clips
  57. 57

    Natural vs Artificial Intelligence and Doing Unexpected Work

    Hidden gem

    "100 bits" versus "a gigabit" becomes Neil Lawrence's case for an "embodiment factor" in intelligence.

    Mar 8, 2018·58m·2 clips
  58. 58

    Scientific Rigor and Turning Information into Action

    Hidden gem

    Ali Rahimi said machine learning is "alchemy," and Ryan framed the real question as "what do we actually do about it?"

    Feb 22, 2018·38m·2 clips
  59. 59

    Code Review for Community Change

    Hidden gem

    Katherine Gorman and Neil Lawrence open Talking Machines season four by discussing a December 13 blog post from Christiane Lum after NIPS in Long Beach.

    Feb 8, 2018·35m·2 clips
  60. 60

    The Pace of Change and The Public View of ML

    Oct 5, 2017·40m
  61. 61

    The Long View and Learning in Person

    Sep 21, 2017·1h 6m
  62. 62

    Machine Learning in the Field and Bayesian Baked Goods

    Sep 8, 2017·1h
  63. 63

    Data Science Africa with Dina Machuve

    Aug 10, 2017·48m
  64. 64

    The Church of Bayes and Collecting Data

    Jul 28, 2017·50m
  65. 65

    Getting a Start in ML and Applied AI at Facebook

    Jul 13, 2017·58m
  66. 66

    Bias Variance Dilemma for Humans and the Arm Farm

    Jun 29, 2017·50m
  67. 67

    Overfitting and Asking Ecological Questions with ML

    Jun 15, 2017·41m
  68. 68

    Graphons and "Inferencing"

    May 25, 2017·42m
  69. 69

    Hosts of Talking Machines: Neil Lawrence and Ryan Adams

    Apr 27, 2017·34m
  70. 70

    ANGLICAN and Probabilistic Programming

    Sep 1, 2016·44m
  71. 71

    Eric Lander and Restricted Boltzmann Machines

    Aug 18, 2016·54m
  72. 72

    Generative Art and Hamiltonian Monte Carlo

    Aug 4, 2016·47m
  73. 73

    Perturb-and-MAP and Machine Learning in the Flint Water Crisis

    Jul 21, 2016·38m
  74. 74

    Automatic Translation and t-SNE

    Jul 7, 2016·32m
  75. 75

    Fantasizing Cats and Data Numbers

    Jun 16, 2016·49m
  76. 76

    Spark and ICML

    Jun 2, 2016·39m
  77. 77

    Computational Learning Theory and Machine Learning for Understanding Cells

    May 19, 2016·41m
  78. 78

    Sparse Coding and MADBITS

    May 5, 2016·41m
  79. 79

    Remembering David MacKay

    Apr 21, 2016·53m
  80. 80

    Machine Learning and Society

    Apr 8, 2016·48m
  81. 81

    Software and Statistics for Machine Learning

    Mar 24, 2016·39m
  82. 82

    Machine Learning in Healthcare and The AlphaGo Matches

    Mar 10, 2016·49m
  83. 83

    AI Safety and The Legacy of Bletchley Park

    Feb 25, 2016·49m
  84. 84

    Robotics and Machine Learning Music Videos

    Feb 11, 2016·40m
  85. 85

    OpenAI and Gaussian Processes

    Jan 28, 2016·35m
  86. 86

    Real Human Actions and Women in Machine Learning

    Jan 14, 2016·1h
  87. 87

    Open Source Releases and The End of Season One

    Nov 22, 2015·41m
  88. 88

    Probabilistic Programming and Digital Humanities

    Nov 5, 2015·48m
  89. 89

    Workshops at NIPS and Crowdsourcing in Machine Learning

    Oct 22, 2015·48m
  90. 90

    Machine Learning Mastery and Cancer Clusters

    Oct 8, 2015·27m
  91. 91

    Data from Video Games and The Master Algorithm

    Sep 24, 2015·46m
  92. 92

    Strong AI and Autoencoders

    Sep 10, 2015·36m
  93. 93

    Active Learning and Machine Learning in Neuroscience

    Aug 27, 2015·54m
  94. 94

    Machine Learning in Biology and Getting into Grad School

    Aug 13, 2015·48m
  95. 95

    Machine Learning for Sports and Real Time Predictions

    Jul 30, 2015·29m
  96. 96

    Really Really Big Data and Machine Learning in Business

    Jul 16, 2015·24m
  97. 97

    Solving Intelligence and Machine Learning Fundamentals

    Jul 2, 2015·30m
  98. 98

    Working With Data and Machine Learning in Advertising

    Jun 18, 2015·39m
  99. 99

    The Economic Impact of Machine Learning and Using The Kernel Trick on Big Data

    Jun 4, 2015·41m
  100. 100

    How We Think About Privacy and Finding Features in Black Boxes

    May 21, 2015·34m
  101. 101

    Interdisciplinary Data and Helping Humans Be Creative

    May 7, 2015·34m
  102. 102

    Starting Simple and Machine Learning in Meds

    Apr 23, 2015·38m
  103. 103

    Spinning Programming Plates and Creative Algorithms

    Apr 9, 2015·35m
  104. 104

    The Automatic Statistician and Electrified Meat

    Mar 26, 2015·46m
  105. 105

    The Future of Machine Learning from the Inside Out

    Mar 13, 2015·28m
  106. 106

    The History of Machine Learning from the Inside Out

    Feb 26, 2015·33m
  107. 107

    Using Models in the Wild and Women in Machine Learning

    Feb 12, 2015·45m
  108. 108

    Common Sense Problems and Learning about Machine Learning

    Jan 29, 2015·41m
  109. 109

    Machine Learning and Magical Thinking

    Jan 15, 2015·35m
  110. 110

    Hello World!

    Jan 1, 2015·41m