2Scientists

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Scientists talk shop, from salamanders to side effects.

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2Scientists puts scientists in front of a microphone to explain their own research, covering neural interfaces, salamander locomotion, microfluidics, molecules that act as logic gates and the monitoring of drug side effects. The conversations are warm and jokey, recorded in settings as varied as a Belfast lab and a Florida tavern.

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About 2Scientists

2Scientists is an interview show in which scientists talk about their own work, and the conversation is allowed to wander. The range across these episodes is wide. A guest named Marvin considers what he would still trust to a regular interface rather than a neural one, and mentions people driving a Formula One car with their brains. The same conversation covers races held at USF and at the University of Alabama, pitched as something more inclusive than what society currently offers. In 'The salamander scientist', Christian Brown describes what may be a new form of locomotion in salamanders and puts a pointed question to fellow herpetology enthusiasts: if long legs and big feet are a climbing adaptation, why do hundreds of other climbing species manage without them? David Hillman, an old friend from the host's doctoral studies, explains how drug companies gather reports of side effects. The detail is the draw. Medical information helplines take reports from physicians, pharmacists, nurses and consumers, and European rules, the UK's included, require companies to search literature databases such as PubMed every week. In Belfast, AP remembers slowly working out that molecules might be built to behave as logic gates, and calls himself a real tortoise for it. That conversation was recorded in his lab, masks on, with giant plastic molecules on hand to play with. Another guest, introduced as someone unafraid to speak her mind, talks microfluidics and argues that research is collaborative, since asking the right person can settle in seconds what reading papers alone would not. Grad student Renee Fonseca, just graduated from USF, is interviewed over a beer at the Mermaid Tavern in Florida while the crew hides from a developing tropical system. The show normally asks guests how they reached their current stage in science; with her, the questions reach further back, to a story about her Colombian dad. Settings like these set the tone. The talk is friendly and teasing, and the jokes stay in: an uncomfortable old lab chair with a nickname, a search for the collective noun for Daves. The extras are homemade. Some episodes close with a credited track, including one by Tampa-based The Easy Button and one from the album 'Old Friends' by AP's friends. Outtakes go to Patreon supporters, co-producer David Basanta photographs the recordings, and one episode runs a contest to guess how many times the word salamander gets said. What a listener gets is research explained by the person who did it, with the personality left in. 'The salamander scientist' is a good first pick, with a sharp research question sitting right beside jokes about beards and lost sleep.

Made for: Suits a listener who enjoys hearing scientists explain their own research in plain conversation, and who is happy for the science to share space with lab anecdotes, personal backstories and plenty of teasing.

What sets it apart: 2Scientists takes its microphones to where its guests are, from a Belfast lab to a Florida tavern, and some guests are longtime friends, so the science comes with shared history and gentle ribbing attached. Credited music from a Tampa band and from a guest's friends, plus outtakes for Patreon supporters, give it a homemade, community feel.

In their own words

Curious about the cosmos? Intrigued by evolution? Two scientists put their heads together to help answer your questions. You can show your love for science by supporting us on patreon.com/2scientists

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A falling salamander gets you a better question: what are those oversized feet actually for?

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  • to trace how side-effect reports reach the people tracking drug safety
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Brains, drones and smart apps for our phonesDec 23, 2023

A grounded, candid look at brain-controlled technology, from drones to the boundaries of trust.

Brain-controlled interfaces anchor this conversation with Dr. Marvin and Duhar, whose work across computer science, mathematics, human-centered computing, and psychology gives the episode a wide but grounded frame.

The pharmacovigilanteDec 13, 2022

David Hillman makes the complex path of medicine side-effect reports clear and grounded.

Pharmacovigilance may sound built to disappear into technical language, but David Hillman keeps its everyday work understandable. He lays out how adverse-event information can come through company medical information helplines, the UK's Yellow Card scheme, the US MedWatch…

The salamander scientistOct 9, 2022

A salamander's fall may recast feet long assumed to aid climbing.

Salamander research turns into a compact story about falling. Christian Brown, a graduate student at USF and biological researcher, starts with a field-guide assumption: big feet and long legs look like tools for climbing.

The ambassador for microfluidicsJul 24, 2022

A sunny, conversational look at microfluidics and the collaborations that carry science forward.

Microfluidics gets a clear, human-scale introduction through scientist Dr. Adeen Karthi, in a conversation recorded in a sunlit garden just outside Dublin.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Neobe and the cancer matrix

    Jul 25, 2024·56m
  2. 2

    Brains, drones and smart apps for our phones

    Hidden gem

    Marvin Duhar says brain activity could become a password and even support independent voting for people with physical disabilities.

    Dec 23, 2023·36m·2 clips
  3. 3

    This time it's personal...

    Jul 14, 2023·10m
  4. 4

    The pharmacovigilante

    Hidden gem

    Pharmacovigilance runs from phase one through market withdrawal, and the UK requires weekly PubMed and Embase searches.

    Dec 13, 2022·1h 6m·2 clips
  5. 5

    The salamander scientist

    Hidden gem

    Christian Brown says the salamanders are "constantly maneuvering" in roll, pitch, and yaw.

    Oct 9, 2022·56m·2 clips
  6. 6

    The ambassador for microfluidics

    Hidden gem

    Adean Karthi explains why early sepsis detection from whole blood is a "needle in a haystack" problem.

    Jul 24, 2022·50m·2 clips
  7. 7

    Serendipity in chemistry

    Hidden gem

    AP De Silva explains how a blood analyzer prepared sodium-matched transfusions during Sri Lanka's civil war.

    Jun 25, 2022·1h·2 clips
  8. 8

    The Patient Doctor

    May 27, 2022·55m
  9. 9

    Piensa en los niños

    May 7, 2022·31m
  10. 10

    Winning Webbys and Science in Spanish

    Apr 15, 2022·3m
  11. 11

    This one's for the kids

    Mar 31, 2022·35m
  12. 12

    The science of cancer and care

    Sep 7, 2021·56m
  13. 13

    Psychology, psychopathy and creating positive change

    Aug 31, 2021·49m
  14. 14

    NDN Science on Earth Day

    Aug 24, 2021·1h 16m
  15. 15

    From pikas to politics

    Aug 17, 2021·49m
  16. 16

    Math the vote pt II: Polls and predictions

    Aug 10, 2021·43m
  17. 17

    Math the vote pt I: The geometry of gerrymandering

    Aug 3, 2021·1h 1m
  18. 18

    COVID-19 special: The Math Epidemiologist

    May 1, 2020·1h 10m
  19. 19

    COVID-19 special: The Microbiologist

    Apr 24, 2020·1h 24m
  20. 20

    COVID-19 special: The Conservation Biologist

    Apr 18, 2020·1h 25m
  21. 21

    Eat the crust

    Apr 16, 2020·53m
  22. 22

    The doctor will see you now

    Apr 9, 2020·39m
  23. 23

    The H.E.A.R.T. doctor

    Apr 2, 2020·54m
  24. 24

    When science gets political

    Mar 26, 2020·53m
  25. 25

    Academic stand-up

    Mar 19, 2020·1h 7m
  26. 26

    The power of words

    Mar 13, 2020·56m
  27. 27

    Mental health in Mandarin and modeling in Montréal

    Mar 5, 2020·46m
  28. 28

    The eccentric nucleus

    Feb 27, 2020·43m
  29. 29

    Same same but different

    Hosts interview a recent graduate about her master's in bioinformatics and computational biology, discussing her background and career path.

    Feb 21, 2020·48m
  30. 30

    Breathing and bugs and biofilms...Oh my!

    Feb 14, 2020·35m
  31. 31

    Stem by name, stem by nature

    Apr 11, 2019·43m
  32. 32

    23 and them

    The hosts introduce a guest who is a legal academic working in medical and public health fields, discussing her intersection with science.

    Apr 4, 2019·52m
  33. 33

    What a scientist looks like

    Mar 27, 2019·41m
  34. 34

    Science out in the open

    Mar 21, 2019·54m
  35. 35

    Statistically speaking

    Mar 14, 2019·40m
  36. 36

    Stars in indigenous eyes

    Mar 7, 2019·52m
  37. 37

    Dr Schaumberg (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the pill)

    Feb 28, 2019·38m
  38. 38

    Addiction and attachment in monogamous mammals

    Feb 23, 2019·30m
  39. 39

    When brain meets machine

    Feb 22, 2019·23m
  40. 40

    The protein folding biologist: Marie Kondo of the cell

    Feb 21, 2019·28m
  41. 41

    The queen of oxytocin

    Feb 14, 2019·33m
  42. 42

    The storytelling geneticist

    Feb 6, 2019·1h 1m
  43. 43

    Wait wait...Earth isn't doomed!

    A preview of the Taste of Science festival with a live recording from a DC event featuring scientists in bars and museums.

    Jan 30, 2019·1h 24m
  44. 44

    The bird man

    Apr 17, 2018·46m
  45. 45

    The archeology of a "good year"

    Two scientists interview an archaeologist about his work in Mediterranean archaeology and archaeological science.

    Apr 10, 2018·44m
  46. 46

    The running scientist

    Apr 3, 2018·1h 10m
  47. 47

    The nanochemist

    Mar 27, 2018·41m
  48. 48

    Engineering the human machine

    Mar 20, 2018·33m
  49. 49

    Of microbes and men

    Mar 13, 2018·45m
  50. 50

    It's the end of the world as we know it...

    Mar 6, 2018·41m