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Why Mets Collapse Would Be Worse Than 2007 + Howie Rose Discusses What Went Wrong

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Howie Rose says the 2007 collapse was worse for one reason: seven games up with 17 to play.

1. The Show: A NY Post baseball podcast with Joel Sherman & Jon Heyman centers this episode on the Mets' collapse and whether it is worse than 2007. 2. Joel Sherman and John Heyman host the discussion, and Howie Rose joins as a lifelong Mets fan, broadcaster since 1987, and play-by-play voice since 1995. 3. The episode asks whether a season that included Juan Soto, Pete Alonso, and $340 million of spending can still end as a failure. 4. Sherman opens by comparing the Mets' slide to 2007 and arguing that today's wild-card race makes the current collapse more severe. 5. Heyman says the Mets have had the 26th-best record since June 13 and calls the team 'basically a 500 team.' 6. The hosts note that the Mets have not won a game this year after trailing going into the ninth inning. 7. Rose says the problems have been building since mid-June and that the starting pitching began to unravel first. 8. He ties that pitching drop-off to the bullpen workload, saying the relief group was not built to absorb three and a half months of short starts. 9. Sherman points to Kodai Senga's June 12 hamstring injury as a turning point, when the Mets were up 4-0 and Senga had a 1.47 ERA. 10. Rose says he cannot blame one injury alone, because Sean Manaea and Frankie Montas also went down and the staff had preexisting question marks. 11. Heyman and Sherman argue that the Mets are not competing with the 2007 Phillies but with the Reds and Diamondbacks for a third wild card. 12. Rose says the current finish would still matter even if the Mets sneak into the playoffs and lose quickly, because the season has already been so prolonged. 13. Heyman pushes the idea that the clubhouse lacks edge, describing the group as nice and passive rather than angry or defiant. 14. Rose says the team seems to get along but may be missing the strong personality or rabble-rouser needed to change the tone. 15. The conversation turns to offseason fallout, including whether Mendoza, Jeremy Hefner, Eric Chavez, or other staff members would survive a bad finish. 16. Rose says managers are often scapegoated, but he expects significant personnel changes if the Mets miss the finish line. 17. The hosts discuss Pete Alonso's future, and Rose says the fans' ovation and social media reaction show that many want him back. 18. Rose also says Juan Soto's 26-year-old season belongs among the greatest Mets offensive seasons and could still get better over four or five years. 19. The tone is urgent, analytical, and heavily focused on Mets history, roster construction, and what happens next. 20. Listeners who follow the Mets, Yankees, and MLB roster decisions will get the most from it; casual baseball listeners may skip the deep Mets context.

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