The Ryen Russillo Podcast · The Ringer

Yanks Pack Up the Sox, the Strange 4-0 Eagles, and Fixing the Ravens With Kevin Clark. Plus, Is Kyle Shanahan a $30M coach?

October 3, 2025·1 hr 22 min·6 clips
Kevin Clark says Kyle Shanahan should make $30 million a year because he can turn any quarterback into a top-10 performer.
The baseball open is wounded fandom with a little distance built in. Russillo starts with Cam Schlittler shutting down the Red Sox, part impressed and part annoyed at a lineup he says may have four utility-player types in it. He says he is okay, which mostly works because he only jumped onto the Red Sox run in late September. That lets early October disappointment feel more like a short-term rental than permanent damage. The pivot is quick. Kevin Clark comes in for the bigger football board, with the cold open setting up major games, the OC-mind-as-head-coach idea, Miami feeling different, and the kind of NFL sorting that lets Russillo pre-argue before the guest even answers. The Eagles section is the real meat. Clark sees them as a team that actually cares about development. They can take low-cost swings on traits because the organization knows how to teach through them. The system is rigid, and in his version, that is not automatically a bad thing. The Eagles know when to lean on analytics, when to trust gut feel, and when to prefer players who seem wired to win. Then the conversation gets more interesting. Clark brings up a Walt Weiss and Gregg Popovich anecdote about finding guys who want to win, and it works because the Eagles point is really about organizational taste. Jalen Hurts becomes the test case. Clark does not want the whole thing trapped in a ranking argument, because every number turns into a fight, but he thinks Hurts gets too little grace for the ugly, useful plays that keep drives alive. One yard matters. The example is not a huge throw or some legacy speech. It is Hurts getting past the sticks on third down without taking the easy shortcut. That is the episode's better football idea. It wants stats, rankings, and schemes, but it keeps coming back to whether teams know what kind of football they are trying to play. The closing is messy. After the show wrap, the feed spills into Spotify and YouTube plugs, a Michael Jordan naming aside, Amazon Business copy, and a long gambling disclaimer. Treat that as ad and compliance material, not the good stuff. The useful clip zone is earlier, especially where Russillo sets the board or Clark works through the Eagles.

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Russillo and Kevin Clark are sharpest when the Yankees opener gives way to a smarter look at what the Eagles are actually building.

Ryen Russillo opens with the Yankees ending Boston's run behind Cam Schlittler, mixing Red Sox resignation with real awe for a historically nasty night.

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A historic Cam Schlittler shutdown, Red Sox pain, and a football deep-dive with Kevin Clark.

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