The Maverick Paradox Podcast

Springing Forward with Learning

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Judith Germain reveals why resilient leaders must engage in difficult learning that depletes their energy.
The episode begins with host Judith Germain introducing the theme of resilient leadership and learning. Guest Russell Harvey, known as 'the resilience coach', joins the conversation. Harvey shares his background, starting from teaching English in Hong Kong in 1996 to founding his coaching business nine and a half years ago. He explains his differentiation as 'the resilience coach' based on living and breathing resilience consistently. Harvey defines resilience as 'springing forward with learning', critiquing the 'bounce back' metaphor for implying a return to a previous state. He emphasizes learning from all experiences, requiring pausing for recovery, re-energizing, and reflection. Harvey discusses his purpose to positively affect 100,000 people by 2025, with a current count of 76,012. The conversation explores how resilience enables extraordinary leadership through adaptability, referencing research by Dr. Jenny Campbell on spending a third of time on adaptability to reach 'thrive' states. Harvey addresses uncertainty in a VUCA world, advising leaders to ground themselves in clarity where possible. He simplifies leadership to three responsibilities: delegating brilliantly to strengths, removing blockages, and building resilient teams. Harvey introduces the resilience wheel with seven aspects: attitude, purpose, confidence, adaptability, support, storytelling, and energy. Energy is linked to playing to natural strengths using tools like Strength Scope, which builds natural resilience and confidence. The episode concludes with Harvey advocating for optimism grounded in reality over toxic positivity, explaining how to foster genuine hope through strength-based conversations.

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A grounded leadership discussion on learning's cost, resilience, and the line between good fatigue and depletion.

Learning lands here as one of leadership's real costs: it can strengthen resilience, but it can also spend it. Host Juice Jermaine and guest Russell Harvey work through whether "springing forward with learning" names resilience itself or the move that follows it, with Harvey…

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If learning leaves you wrung out, this conversation helps you name the drain without treating it as failure.

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