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Ep 142: LIV, Women and Watches...

·1 hr 22 min·5 clips

Rob Murray is at the controls, and he starts by steering the show away from the usual on-course chatter. The first major thread is the women’s major that moved venues and dates after four decades in one place. The second is LIV’s Australia event, which comes in framed as a rousing success. Adrian Logue joins with the wide-angle thinking the topic calls for. The conversation treats both developments as part of a broader reshaping of golf rather than as stand-alone headlines. That means the show keeps pulling on consequences instead of stopping at applause or outrage. The panel is wary of easy arguments. It keeps coming back to the idea that each move affects several other parts of the sport. LIV becomes the main test case. The show notes that the project began with plans for 10 events. It then grew to 14. That matters because it changes what the product actually is. The panel argues there is room for a limited exhibition-style version of golf. It is also clear that exhibition should not be treated like a dirty word. In the right setting, with the right field and the right atmosphere, that kind of event can work. Adelaide is used as the example of a market where the format and the energy line up well. The show also gets into the practical reality for players. If LIV were only a limited-week event, some of the criticism would soften. But the players want competitive reps. They also want world ranking points. And they need those points to get into majors. That creates a tension the show does not let slide. LIV wants to be entertainment and legitimate competition at the same time. The panel points out that it cannot fully be both without friction. The players want to win, obviously. They also want the event to matter in the wider golf ecosystem. Later, the discussion turns to the on-the-ground experience of attending the tournament. The venue is described as heavily roped off. Moving between holes is not easy. Crossing between the two courses adds another layer of hassle. Getting to the party hole at the 12th sounds like a small expedition. The show even lingers on the practical annoyance of waiting at crosswalks and getting stuck out the back. Larry Canning gets a mention. So does the idea that the venue is no crooked cat. The episode closes with the usual good-humored wrap-up, but the main point is already clear: golf’s biggest arguments are now about format, access, and the odd shape of legitimacy.

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A loose, sharp golf discussion about LIV, the women's major move, and the politics around both.

Episode 142 is a sharp, slightly loose golf conversation built around two pressure points: LIV's event in Australia and the women's major that moved venues and dates after 40 years in one place.

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