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State of the "log" 2025 (Friends)

December 19, 2025·1 hr 42 min·9 clips
Kyle Galbraith reveals how three engineers might soon outpace 300, forcing teams to rethink code integration and builds.
It starts with ritual. The classic theme is bumping, the calendar has circled back to late December, and the show introduces itself as part news brief, part deep technical interview, part weekend talk show with hallway-track energy. Fly.io gets thanked. Then State of the Log 2025 begins, with Kyle Galbraith from depot.dev joining as the conversation touches reliability, CI/CD, pipelines, and where depot fits for teams rethinking that work. The excerpt skips ahead. By the engagement peak, the mood is less crystal ball and more memory lane, but in the useful way: which conversations stayed with people after the recording stopped. Jamie has named a long list of episodes, and the hosts start adding color around specific entries, including Interviews 666, Do Repeat Yourself with Sean Gatke, and Friends 81, Change My Mind. That one still has a little heat in it. Chris Keel's post about development topics changing over ten years gives Adam and the host a reason to ask what they have changed their own minds about, and what they have not. Adam remembers feeling underprepared. That uncertainty helps the episode. Nobody is pretending every favorite arrives with a neat label and a bow. They chase the feel of the recording instead. Turn Him Into a Walrus gets called out as one of Adam's favorites, the kind of playful title and groove that made a Friends episode feel alive. This excerpt is not really a ranked list. It is collaborators noticing which episodes had life, which puns landed, and which conversations kept echoing. The ending turns outward. Listeners are pointed to Zulip to sound off on the episode thread, keeping the audience in the room. The thanks get specific: Breakmaster Cylinder, editor Jason, Alexander on transcripts, Gerhard Lazu, family, partners, sponsors, and the Changelog community. Then the year gets closed. They thank people for listening, point toward Fly.io and depot.dev, and say they will get back together next year.

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A warm Changelog year-end retrospective with platform-team context, inside-baseball charm, and hallway-track ease.

State of the Log 2025 catches The Changelog in its familiar year-end mode: part recap, part hallway-track hang, part check-in on how software teams are thinking about the work now.

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