Episode 162 LIVE: Anatomy of a Bribe (feat. Tony Bobulinski) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

·1 hr 28 min·5 clips

Tony Bobulinski, from a military family, says no one disputes his evidence against the Bidens, only his motives.

The episode is a live interview between host Matt Gaetz and guest Tony Bobulinski, recorded at Spotify studios in Los Angeles. Gaetz introduces Bobulinski as the most credible narrator of the Biden investigations, framing the discussion around allegations that a business deal with the Bidens and Chinese company CEFC was actually a bribe. Bobulinski begins by describing his background as a private financier for a wealthy family, explaining his lack of notoriety prior to becoming a public witness. He recounts his shock at media scrutiny and deception after testifying before Congress. Bobulinski emphasizes his military family heritage and non-political motives, stating that critics have never challenged the facts he presented, such as text messages and meetings, only his goals. He advocates for stronger anti-corruption legislation, particularly regarding the families of presidents and vice presidents, contrasting his own security clearance requirements with the Bidens' activities. The discussion shifts to CEFC, a Chinese energy conglomerate, with Bobulinski explaining key figures like Chairman Yi, Director Zhang, and Patrick Ho. He links CEFC's operations to the Biden dealings, describing how Hunter Biden invoked his father in messages to secure payments. Gaetz reads from the U.S. Department of Justice's opening statement in the trial of Patrick Ho, which details CEFC's bribery schemes in Chad and Uganda to obtain oil rights. Bobulinski analyzes this trial, noting that CEFC used non-profits and connectors like former UN General Assembly presidents to facilitate bribes. He suggests broader Chinese infiltration of global institutions and calls for greater awareness of these threats. The episode concludes with reflections on the implications for U.S. national security and anti-corruption efforts.

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