Oh No, Ross and Carrie

Ross and Carrie Commune with Whitley Strieber: New World Edition

·1 hr 36 min·5 clips
Ross and Carrie return to the Conscious Life Expo, a gathering of crystal healers, alien contactees, and free energy machine purveyors.
Ross and Carrie open by describing the Conscious Life Expo 2024 at the LAX Hilton, a decades-old event featuring crystal healers, alien contactees, and conspiracy theorists. They highlight their interest in Whitley Strieber, author of the iconic 1987 abduction memoir 'Communion', who is giving a talk titled 'Them' about his new book. The hosts discuss Strieber's cultural impact, noting the famous book cover painting of a gray alien by Ted Seth Jacobs. Strieber's talk is plagued by technical issues he blames on alien interference. He speaks about moving into the Age of Aquarius and a 'new world', using birth metaphors for humanity's evolution. Strieber reveals his wife Anne and friend Lori Barnes cataloged 250,000-300,000 letters from readers who shared similar abduction experiences, an archive now donated to Rice University. He shares selected stories from these letters, such as 'Call of the Morlocks' about a psychologist seeing a dwarf alien, and 'A New You' where he claims aliens took his semen for cloning. Strieber presents videos as evidence, including infrared footage from Afghanistan he says shows alien craft unaffected by missiles, and a 2002 video from British Columbia he claims is a clear UFO. Ross and Carrie skeptically analyze these, consulting experts like Mick West to suggest the Afghanistan footage shows flares and the UFO video likely a mylar balloon. They note Strieber's pattern of high pattern-seeking without considering alternative explanations, comparing him to other ufologists like Linda Moulton Howe. The episode also touches on other expo themes like light language, DNA activation, and a self-proclaimed Messiah, with the hosts planning future coverage.
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