Nature and Science Podcast · Don Murphy

How A Love For Science Is Fostering World Peace

·45 min·3 clips
Her students danced ozone depletion, chemical bonds, and ionic bonding at night in a dance studio.
1. Nature and Science Podcast frames the conversation around how science and chemistry can promote peace in the Middle East. 2. Don Murphy hosts Dr. Zafra Lehrman, an American scientist, chemist, educator, and humanitarian who leads the Malta Conferences Foundation. 3. The episode asks how science can work as a bridge between hostile countries and as a tool for human rights and education. 4. Lehrman traces her science interest to childhood in Israel, where identical twins, mirrors, and a radio saying "the voice of Jerusalem" pushed her to keep asking questions. 5. She says a principal placed her, at age seven, in an eighth-grade algebra class and she solved the board problem without knowing what algebra meant. 6. Murphy connects her lifelong questioning to the podcast’s own tagline, "never stop questioning," and Lehrman agrees that questioning drove her path. 7. Lehrman explains that the Malta Conferences gather scientists from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, and Egypt under one roof. 8. She says those meetings focus on water, energy, science education, and food security, with several Nobel laureates present. 9. An Egyptian chemist at a Malta Conference said the group has "only one nationality" and that nationality is science. 10. Lehrman says that line reflects how the conference removes the map borders that British divisions created in the Middle East. 11. She says the participants leave as friends, often crying, hugging, and kissing goodbye at the end of the conference. 12. Lehrman says her father gave her a sixth-birthday letter telling her to divide money into thirds for Holocaust orphans, tree planting, and her own use. 13. She connects that childhood lesson to her decision to leave the planet better than she found it. 14. She says she could not accept that large populations were shut out of science because of where they were born or which district they lived in. 15. Lehrman states that science education is a human right and says she has used many methods to make students successful in science. 16. She gives the example of homeless children learning chemistry at night in a dance studio, where they danced ozone depletion and different chemical bonds. 17. Lehrman explains isotopes with carbon-12, carbon-13, and carbon-14, and says carbon-14 has a 5,600-year half-life. 18. She uses the chemistry lesson to show how isotope differences reveal reaction mechanisms and why rate changes matter in research. 19. The interview tone is warm, conversational, and teacherly, with Murphy prompting long explanations and Lehrman answering in classroom detail. 20. People interested in chemistry education, peacebuilding, and critical thinking would likely follow this conversation, while listeners wanting a fast celebrity-style interview probably would not.
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