Maisel Goys 504-506

June 12, 2023·1 hr 44 min·5 clips

Alice calls the celebrity podcast boom "rich guy boredom shit," sprung from famous people stuck at home during the pandemic.

Kevin and Alice open with their usual self-aware banter. They joke about the show before steering into the Maiselgoys run. Alice brings up a burner Reddit account. It started with home-improvement advice and somehow turned into Animal Crossing trading, including the hunt for rare furniture and Doric columns. That detour sets the tone: personal, a little ridiculous, and very them. From there, the conversation turns to Susie. They focus on how her past relationships keep widening the emotional range of the show. Hedy is the clearest example. Kevin and Alice like how the role opens Susie up without sanding off what makes her sharp. They talk through the performance as a rare case where the show gives Susie real vulnerability. The discussion also lands on the long-running question of whether Susie is gay. They treat the issue as complicated, sensitive, and baked into the character's history in Greenwich Village. The hosts note that the show's handling of that tension feels thoughtful rather than exploitative. They are especially taken with the college romance angle. That history gives context for why the relationship went wrong and why the easy read is too simple. Nina Arianda gets a full appreciation pass. They place her across Maisel, Billions, Hannibal, 30 Rock, and Being the Ricardos. They are not shy about calling Being the Ricardos a bad movie. Even so, they credit Arianda for doing strong work inside a script and aesthetic that did not help her. The episode ends with Elton John and the hosts' familiar, affectionate sign-off.

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A funny detour that turns into one of the clearest reads on Susie.

This is a Susie episode first, and a recap second. Kevin and Alice keep coming back to her past relationships and the Hedy material, which gives the conversation its shape.

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For when you want your recap to start with chaos and end with Susie.

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