Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children · Debbie Reber

TPP 473: A Conversation with Naomi Fisher About EMDR

·39 min·3 clips
Naomi Fisher reveals how EMDR flattens traumatic memories from the amygdala like sorting a messy cupboard.
What happens when the symptom arrives first? The guest describes EMDR as a therapy process that can begin with a present fear, even when the person cannot connect it to anything else yet. The example is plain enough. Someone might come in with an intense phobia of bald heads and have no idea why it feels so charged. From there, the focus tightens. The therapist might ask them to bring up the last encounter, hold that image in mind, and add eye movements. Then older material can surface. In the example, the fear traces back to a car accident that had not seemed relevant because the person was not hurt. That detail has emotional weight. The guest talks about the strange pressure people can feel when everyone tells them they were lucky and should move on. Symptoms do not always listen to gratitude. A person can survive something, feel they have no right to complain, and still have strong reactions afterward. The process can start another way too. For some people, conversation, history-taking, and preparation come before formal EMDR processing. There is no shortcut promised here. The guest keeps returning to understanding the person, making sense of their experience, learning about childhood, and preparing before the EMDR work begins. Patient is the word. The exchange holds a practical listener question: where do you begin when a fear seems cut off from its source? The answer is gentle but not simple. You might begin with the fear itself, or with the wider story, and let the therapy uncover what the person has been carrying.

As heard by us

EMDR is presented as a staged process that uses a concrete example to show how older memories can surface behind current symptoms.

Debbie Reber's Full Tilt Parenting conversation treats EMDR as careful work that starts with the person, not the problem. It moves from preparation into processing, and the clearest part is the concrete example: a fear of bald heads becomes the first target, then other memories…

Read the full review in PlayNext →

Why you'd press play

If you want EMDR explained without the jargon, start here.

Read the full recommendation in PlayNext →
Listen to the show on