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Pedo guy

May 13, 2025·39 min·3 clips

Elon Musk tweets 'pedo guy' at Vernon Unsworth, a hero of the Thai cave rescue, sparking a legal battle.

Someone wants protection before saying anything. That fear sits right next to the cave rescue, where the danger is not abstract. Vern knows the system well. By the time he reaches the entrance, panic has set in. Thai Navy divers are fighting currents, deep water, and mud-blocked passages, and the boys are still missing. Around the world, everyone is waiting to see whether a rescue can happen before time runs out. Vern makes his list: Rob Harper, Rick Stanton, and John Blanthan. They come from the UK. Their record is serious, more than 150 years of caving experience between the four men, but they do not look like a rescue unit. The Navy SEAL command sees scruffy older men in t-shirts and shorts. Then the experience starts to show. Ministers ask what happens if they ignore the advice. The answer lands hard: they all die. The room goes quiet. On day 10, the boys are found hundreds of meters below the surface. The relief is huge, but the way out is still a nightmare. Oxygen is falling. The cave is flooded. Every option is dangerous.

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A sober account of a cave rescue and the controversy around it.

This episode folds an anonymous warning into a story that moves from scandal into the Thai cave rescue, and the result stays grounded even as the material turns wild.

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