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Guarding the Wire at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

·1 hr 9 min·5 clips

A U.S. Marine describes exchanging one-finger salutes with Cuban soldiers across the Guantanamo Bay fence.

Host Ian Sanders interviews Chris, a former U.S. Marine who served at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, from 1990 to 1991. Chris joined the Marines in 1989 after high school and was assigned as a TOW missile gunner. He arrived at Guantanamo Bay via a military airlift flight, initially surprised by the arid, desert-like environment. The base is divided by a bay, with Marines stationed on the leeward side guarding the airfield. Chris explains the rotation between fence-line duty and training weeks, with guard shifts lasting eight hours. He describes the fence line as having a no-man's land between U.S. and Cuban positions, where soldiers sometimes exchanged gestures. Chris observed Cuban life from guard towers, including seeing an old Soviet biplane drop a bundle, likely mail, in a Cuban town. He notes the lack of propaganda broadcasts but mentions Cuban soldiers conducting firing drills nearby. The episode covers defectors, including swimmers who reached the base and a pilot who landed with his family, after which the plane was returned to Cuba. Chris discusses the base's outdated equipment, such as M60 tanks and M79 grenade launchers, and the minefield maintenance he assisted with. He highlights the isolation, leading to heavy drinking and mandatory alcoholism counseling for all personnel. Free time activities included snorkeling, visiting bars, and watching outdoor movies. Chris recalls being punished for falling asleep on guard duty but avoiding a formal record. His tour was extended by six months due to Desert Storm, causing discontent. He reflects on the base's strategic value, citing its use during the 1991 Haiti crisis, and questions its ongoing necessity.

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A grounded military memory that keeps the stakes close.

Guarding a base on the Cuban fence line turns a tense military posting into something quieter and more exposed: routine, distance, and the constant sense of being out in the open.

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