2023 Accord and Prius Thoughts! EV Cayman or 911?

January 12, 2023·1 hr 27 min·5 clips

They ask whether Porsche should turn the Cayman platform into an EV.

Ted opens the show with Nick and Josh in the room, and the first stretch is mostly the kind of off-the-rails banter this show is happy to let breathe. Josh has not been around for a while, so the update starts there. A small joke gets room to run. The pace stays unhurried. That looseness sets up the rest of the episode well. The show sounds like people who know cars and also know how to get distracted by their own jokes. Soon enough, the talk moves toward a Cayman S search and the strange feeling of looking at a market that is both expensive and oddly thin. They talk through what the car might be worth in a few years and whether that could push a buyer out later. That turns into a practical question rather than a fantasy one. The show keeps returning to what it would actually cost to own, buy, or sell. Ted mentions checking how many manual Cayman S cars are for sale. The number is tiny. He says he only found seven in the country on Cars.com at the time he looked. The others push on that number a little, because the exact count depends on where you search and how broad the net is. Even so, the broader point lands. Manual Cayman S cars are not exactly sitting around everywhere. They compare that with other manual 987 cars, which feel easier to find. That contrast becomes part of the argument. The episode is interested in why one trim or transmission combination ends up feeling scarce while another does not. The discussion stays practical rather than abstract. It is about actual listings, actual search habits, and the reality of trying to buy a specific car in a specific market. The group also talks about how KBB can be shaky on cars like this. The manual gearbox matters. The usual value tools do not always know what to do with that. A trade-in number can look bad even when the car has a real niche audience. That makes the whole thing feel less like a clean spreadsheet problem and more like a weird little negotiation between taste and market data. AutoTempest comes up as one of the better ways to search across sites. They note that it pulls together places like AutoTrader and Cars.com, which is useful even if the interface makes you click around more than you would like. They talk about how it is annoying to bounce between listings, yet still better than checking each site by hand. That is a pretty good summary of the whole episode, honestly. Useful, slightly annoying, and still worth doing. They also touch on Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace, mostly as places that might contain a few more oddball listings but are hard to count on. The episode does not pretend those platforms solve the problem. It treats them like part of the scavenger hunt. There is a practical edge to all of it. The show keeps asking what is actually out there, what is rare, and how much time it is worth to keep looking. By the end, the talk has become less about one model and more about how car enthusiasm gets filtered through listings, scarcity, and repair-adjacent math. The little jokes are still there. The price talk is still there. The show ends the same way it runs: as a conversation that keeps finding another practical angle one click later.

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A loose car-chat episode that turns marketplace trivia into the point.

AV Automotive Podcast brings Ted, Nick, and Josh back together, with Josh returning to share an update on vehicle life. The talk settles into manual Cayman S ownership and stays rooted in practical questions: how many cars are actually for sale, what KBB does and does not…

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You want a laid-back car-nerd hangout that gets surprisingly specific about manual Cayman S scarcity.

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