Arrested DevOps · Matt Stratton, Trevor Hess, Jessica Kerr, and Bridget Kromhout

Cloud Native Security With Michael Isbitski

July 27, 2023·56 min·4 clips

Matty Stratton digs into cloud-native security insights with Michael Isbitski, revealing alarming vulnerability trends.

The setup stays deliberately plainspoken. After the show frame and sponsor break, Matty names the target: cloud-native security and the habits the industry drags into it. Shift left takes over from there. He treats the phrase as short enough to sound settled, but slippery enough to make people talk past each other. That muddle is the useful part. Matty ties it back to earlier conversations with Tanya Janka and to his older talk about moving left securely. The detour does the work. His story about frustrated customers and sysadmins turns the slogan into a question about who gets trusted near production. Titles do not make anyone flawless. The Pope joke works because it pokes at the old ops instinct to keep everyone else away from production because they might break things. Ops people break things too. Matty brings that down to earth with the pub confession about fat-fingering something expensive and learning humility the hard way. So the security question changes. The interview is less interested in chanting shift left than in asking what the phrase should mean, and where it starts going wrong. The excerpt does not give the whole answer, but it shows the lane: nuance before doctrine, scars before slogans. The close stays close to working practitioners. Mike points listeners to LinkedIn, mentions an upcoming Gartner security and risk management summit, and asks for questions or stories from people doing this work. Even the ending keeps things loose, with a quick riff on contrary rogue sessions before the banana stand signoff.

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A practical DevOps security conversation about what "shift left" means once real teams and production access are involved.

Arrested DevOps takes cloud native security through one of its most overworked phrases: "shift left." Matty Stratton treats it less like a slogan than a language problem, asking what teams actually mean when they talk about moving security earlier.

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If "shift left" makes you roll your eyes, this one speaks your language.

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